my husband & i are trying to adopt.
anyone have any good leads, stories, an agency they heard was good, a friend who wants to give away her baby, or anything?
:-) we live in iowa- we hired a facilitator out of california- been on the waiting list for over a year.
HI! My husband & I are trying to adopt. Anyone have any good leads, stories, an agency they heard was good, a friend who wants to give away her baby, or anything? :-) We live in Iowa- we hired a facilitator out of California- been on the waiting list for over a year. Guarantee the child won't be raised a witness :-) Plenty of Christmas & Birthdays to be had :-) Thanks- Melissa
Edited by - perfection seeker on 4 July 2002 22:50:47
so, whats the straw that broke the camels back in your life?
what was the final last straw that made you say thats it- no more?
i have so many-for 15 years i kept getting that last straw-and trying to ignore it- but i think the last straw was when my dad died- everyone kept (keeps) giving me the line of bs about never seeing him again unless i go to meetings.
JIM- that can't be the straw that broke the camels back, can it? I mean, in my experience, you're GONE already when you get the book, aren't you? I guess I was. I NEVER would have read it if I was "in". The WHOLE book really socked it to me about SOO many wrongs & misleadings. That book was awesome!
Edited by - perfection seeker on 3 July 2002 23:51:9
do you ever notice how sometimes the brain acts like a time capsule.
how sometimes in the most oddest of events, you will suddenly dig up the weirdest memory.
i have this happen from time to time with the witness memories.
How about the witness songs? Ever have one of them pop in your head? Once they do- they don't leave easily! :-)
i just found this website on june 23- and haven't done anything else since!
i am spending 25 (lol) hours a day on this site!
i can't leave.
HI! I just found this website on June 23- and haven't done ANYTHING else since! I am spending 25 (lol) hours a day on this site! I can't leave. If I leave to shower or walk the dog, or do anything- I come right back up & on the computer! Not really complaining- this site is awesome, and was VERY timely & helpful. I think this site should be on the back of every Watchtower-lol. Keep up the good work everyone! This support system is awesome. Better than any I had in the "TRUTH" for all those years. How many hours does everyone else spend on here? Probably depends on your level- where you're at with leaving, etc. Just curious :-) Thanks to all who welcomed me & posted replies to my posts. Melissa
Edited by - perfection seeker on 3 July 2002 20:51:57
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Edited by - perfection seeker on 3 July 2002 23:47:48
this is my first 4th of july as a non jw.
so my question is what about patriotism?.
as much as i believe that most of what the jw believes is in error.
This is a tough one. The first time I went to church- last December- and saw a flag on the stage- I was way turned off. I have always been turned off flag salutes, etc- because of my witness upbringing. Now, I do understand the flag salute- since the 911 tragedy- more than ever- I do understand pledging your allegiance to the USA- instead of being a defector, etc. Who knows how we would have felt having NOT been raised a witness. Everyone else just takes the flag salute & patriotism for granted. I guess you'll have to see how you personally feel- For me- I enjoy the fireworks, getting together with family since we all have time off, etc. Never really thought much about the overall picture. Its OK to pick & choose your beliefs. You might not be 100% witness, or 100% catholic, or 100% any certain one religion. Just take what your own conscience tells you & go from there. Good luck! Melissa
anyone still have ties to the witnesses?
for me- my entire family is still in- and i get cargroups at my house 2 out of 4 saturday mornings.
i am always looking over my shoulder when they knock- like- is there any lottery tickets laying around?
Musky- that was a sweet post- thanks :-)
LB- I hear ya on the Christmas stuff. My husband has never been a witness, so our house is always decorated at holidays, of course its all him, not me..........lol- or at least my mom believes that! I have been so fed up lately, that I said this year we are going to have a power outage with so many lights & decorations! It drives my mom nuts! She refuses to come when the pumpkin is glowing on the front porch at Halloween- so, once she came in July- and my husband put it out as a joke to scare her away :-)
My Apostefest will be held near Cedar Rapids Iowa- course- you're all welcome to come to the Judicial committee before hand if it ever comes to that- we could have some SERIOUS fun :-)
I know I've said this in almost every post- but just found this site June 26- so this is all new to me. It is SOOOOOOOO comforting to hear others have gone through the SAME thing- and there is life after the organization! I felt so alone- even my husband couldn't understand the depth. To reach out to even "strangers" on here that know where you're coming from- well, this feels like a family! :-) I owe alot of recovery to this site! Will save a ton in therapy bills!! Thanks again! : -) MELISSA
anyone still have ties to the witnesses?
for me- my entire family is still in- and i get cargroups at my house 2 out of 4 saturday mornings.
i am always looking over my shoulder when they knock- like- is there any lottery tickets laying around?
HI! Thanks for all the posts! I never hide or look over my shoulder when my husbands side of the family comes- they are normal :-) My family, however is DEEP DEEP DEEP inside- servants, elders, pioneers, etc. My ENTIRE family- not one member is NOT a witness but me. So, I have ALOT at stake. I want NO part of being a witness, hate the constant guilt & pressure, but would rather hide things now & then, and still have "ties" to them- and be able to talk to them when I want- rather than getting DA'ed or DF'ed and have NO family. Family, good or bad- is a strong tie- they all live within 15 minutes of me- we just built a house- we're here to stay- would be terrible to be this close- and have to be shunned, etc. I told my mom the other day when she was preaching at me that at least when I was disfellowshipped she couldn't bug me. Shut her RIGHT up. (FOR NOW) So, yes, when the big shunning comes- I will deal with it- but for now- if I can keep in the closet- so to speak- that is good for me, for now. I don't attend meetings or conventions, so they know I want no part- but just HOW far gone I am- the big "A" word- I will keep secret for now. Course, when & if it does come- getting a label on me- and being shunned, I've found some HILARIOUS suggestions for Judicial Committees, and then I am holding my own "APOSTEFEST" in my back yard- and EVERYONE is invited! :-)
anyone still have ties to the witnesses?
for me- my entire family is still in- and i get cargroups at my house 2 out of 4 saturday mornings.
i am always looking over my shoulder when they knock- like- is there any lottery tickets laying around?
Anyone still have ties to the witnesses? For me- my ENTIRE family is still in- and I get cargroups at my house 2 out of 4 Saturday mornings. I am ALWAYS looking over my shoulder when they knock- like- Is there any lottery tickets laying around? Astroglide still on the living room floor from the night before? (LOL) Where did I leave that Crisis of conscience book last.......lol. My brother came & asked my husband for some computer help- they went upstairs- and my heart stopped- I KNEW there was a sheet with 10 ways to shut JW's up laying by the computer. I guess my husband didn't even notice it- but when I went up- I did- and laid a book over it- but I think it was too late. Then, my husband did the search engine for something- and up popped the last 10 searches- and low & behold- JEHOVAHS WITNESS DEPROGRAMMING was right there on top! That was the last time my brother has been here. Kind of funny now. :-) Of course- theres the looking over shoulder when buying a lottery ticket, renting a R movie, going to a R movie- its such a crock. Even when I was "in" others told me what my conscience should allow. If you DONT do something out of fear, is it really the right reason? When I was in, I didn't do certain things because I didn't want to get caught- by the ORGANIZATION- it had nothing to do with Jehovah. Its so sad. I feel so bad for the ones who are just starting the long journey ahead. We'll see them on here eventually! Thanks for listening :-)
...with stops along the way in bird-in-hand and lancaster.. that's right.
today, i, my wife and my mother-in-law loaded ourselves into the car and drove down to pennsylvania dutch country, where we visited the towns of intercourse, paradise, and the others i mentioned.
we went to the mennonite information center, where we heard a lecture about the israelite tabernacle in the wilderness, enhanced by viewing an actual size model of the tabernacle.
You got me! I clicked on this post first thing ;-) Good one! :-) (Intercourse usually does lead to paradise-lol)
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! Five years ago today I married my prince, as well :-) Must be a good day to get married! :-) CONGRATS!! Hang on to him!
